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Outstanding stuff.

It's easy for people (like me) to wish the "Muslim street" would declare itself more strongly against terror. I forget sometimes that many of them are strangers in a strange land, fearful not only of the terrorists but of OUR unfamiliar culture.

There's an article by Clifford May about the current "cartoon intifada" with a good quote:

"Militant Islamism is least of all about religion. It's mostly about power."

URL: http://www.defenddemocracy.org/in_the_media/in_the_media_show.htm?doc_id=355703

Keep showing the human side of the Islamic population, warts and all. God bless.

Thanks for this. It's so good to have people writing on blogs about things that really happened to them - rather than just yada yada about what they happen to think about things.

If it were me, I would have told them to become Christians and urge other Muslims to also become Christians. Not because I have a thing for Christians, I'm an agnostic. However, I do have a thing for Muslims. It's about time they awaken to the facts. Far too many people are murdered now in the name of Islam for peaceful folk to remain a part of that faith. They should abandom Islam and let it wither on the vine. Since they won't, we will have to pluck that grape and squash it. Random bombings and beheadings across the world cannot be tolerated.

"If it were me, I would have told them to become Christians and urge other Muslims to also become Christians."

You're just the sensitive and compassionate type, aren't you, wxjames.

And here it is over 4 years after the fact that this story comes out.

Or maybe it did in Ohio. Did anyone talk to a newspaper?

Very interesting; I wonder how many different Muslim immigrant groups in different cities had the same sort of meeting (and I hope they all had their questions answered the way you did it). Can't remember our local news outlets in MN covering anything like this, but they tend to condescend enough that all the stories about immigrant communities are either meant to generate pity or stir up controversy.

Mahadsanid, Dennis. [Yeah, I had to look up how to spell it, but I actually learned how to say it from my wife, who had many Somali patients at her previous office -- she's a dental hygienist -- and learned a few words from her interpreter and patients.]

"Far too many people are murdered now in the name of Islam for peaceful folk to remain a part of that faith."

No religion is without a history of persecution. Dismissing all billion Muslims as suspect misreads human nature. Isn't that what the Bush doctrine is about?

Scott, nobody was ever born with a religion. Religion is drilled into the head of small children. It's not necessary to have one, no less to keep a religion that guarantees trouble in your future. Considering the religion of Islam is like a yoke around the neck of the Muslim, throwing off that yoke seems like a fine idea. It just takes more courage than most people can muster.
Courage, Scott, not sensitivity.

Good story, Dennis.

Without even addressing wxjames' ignorance of the religion itself: I find it stunning how some people, with smug rectitude, expect others to shed the faith of their birth and put on another one like some suit of clothes. Moreover, it's disgusting that people make blase demands of others that they most certainly would never make of themselves in similar circumstances.

I suppose from a self-styled agnostic's viewpoint, religion is a social convention; which is why you presume to be able to authoritatively recommend one faith over another; but dude, it makes you look like a total goofball. Obviously you have no idea what faith is like if you've never had any yourself.

For you to be lecturing anybody about courage is silly to the point of dementia.

Bravo!

I'll await your next installments.

As Steve Gilliard says:
It's all about being a good writer.

You bring out a useful point, Dennis: that an act of terror terrorizes both the victims and also the people it allegedly supports. It's something I have to remind myself of when I face my morning urge to wish this country's foreign policy was run like a Frazetta poster.

Scott, you are correct, I have long realized that religion is a manmade attempt to use the unknown to control the masses. Therefore, I consider the possibility of changing religions about as real as changing political parties.
Remember, there has never been one iota of proof that God exists. Not one. Yet, many of you would fight to the death in God's name.
That's a lot of faith to put in men who had dreams or visions centuries ago, but some people must believe in a higher power. Maybe we all believe in a higher power. Then why is one higher power pleased by violence, and another pleased by charity ? Why does one higher power suggest dhimmitude, while another recommends loving thy neighbor ?
My answer ? No man has yet to make contact with the higher power and report what that power wants from us. Never happened. Maybe never will.
And, I have shed my former beliefs in some other era's religion. When I found out that the pope of the time made it a mortal sin to eat meat on Friday to support the fishing industry, I realized that he didn't believe in God either.

Reminds me of a story I heard from a Somali who has a green card. I've known this guy for awhile, I have no reason to disbelive him.

His brother, with the unfortunate name of "Jihad" was snatched up in the days after 9/11. After being held for some weeks, he was flown out of the country in handcuffs until he ended up on a U.S. Navy ship in the Arabian Sea/Gulf of Yemen.

He was just put in a boat and driven to some deserted beach near Mogadishu, and left there, just a few months after he lived in Minnesota.

you are a good writer, and I have read many of your posts with amusement.

that said, you sound like a pompous ass who is just as full of himself as you claim glenn greenwald is. 'you are a wise man'. oh so humble you sound - and since these furiners asked your opinion as the representative of America you must feel so cool. does that make your opinion more valid now, since you know muslims? check out blackpeoplelikeus.com for an example of what you look like to me.

oops - that's blackpeopleLOVEus.com. plus, html links don't work the way I expect them to here.

"...I consider the possibility of changing religions about as real as changing political parties."

But people do that all the time. It's a slow process (or a sudden one that happens after a shock), but it happens.

prozacula-

The fact that you couldn't get the site name right takes a bit of the sting out your criticism... if you know what I mean. And I'm pretty sure you don't.

The site is pretty funny, though.

ah yes, my argument is weakened by my egregious error, since the crux of my argument was based on whether black people like me, or LOVE me...and I'm sure I know what you mean, but my critique still stands. your glennholes post seemed like grandstanding in the 'libertarian' vein - i.e. I'm a libertarian, so I am free to say everyone sucks and I'm right. reminds me of o'reilly, really.

thank you for following the (corrected) link tho.

No problem, Bro.

Really well written. I admit, sometimes I even let myself get too caught up in this "Clash of Civilizations" mess.

Prozacula, you're a douche.

yes, I am a douche - in the sense that I flush and clean the stinkholes hidden where the sun doesn't shine.

but if that was meant to insult me, I don't understand what makes me a 'douche'. the fact that I pointed out that dennis sounds all haughty and grandstandy when he tries to point out that two bloggers are just grandstanding assholes?

I agree with a large majority of what mr. peasant writes here. if the fact that I don't agree with his glennholes post makes me a douche, then fine, uncap me, shove me in and I'll douche away.

prozacula -- Dennis is PRESENTING himself as a self-involved asshole. It's his on-site personality.

I stumbled across your blog while I was doing some online research. I think many of us have had similar experiences; while we vividly remember 9/11, the following days are somewhat of a blur.

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