Well, I Don't Give A Damn, I'm Goin' To Afghanistan...

When in doubt, pour in the troops:

American military commanders with the NATO mission in Afghanistan told President Obama’s chief envoy to the region this weekend that they did not have enough troops to do their job, pushed past their limit by Taliban rebels who operate across borders.

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The assessments come as the top American commander in the country, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, has been working to complete a major war strategy review, and as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, described a worsening situation in Afghanistan despite the recent addition of 17,000 American troops ordered by the Obama administration and the extra security efforts surrounding the presidential election.

Wonderful. Obama's upped troop levels from 40,000 to 57,000 and things are "deteriorating".

Any guess how many more troops McChrystal and Mullen are going to ask for?

All I can say is this: George W. Bush was stupid enough to start two separate conventional wars that could not, under any realistic circumstance, be won conventionally. Barack Obama, super genius, is showing that for all his supposed intellectual gifts, he can't figure this out. Worse yet, he's picked to escalate the one war that truly cannot be won in any sense. To top it off, he's getting ready to send in more troops at the precise time public opinion is finally turning against this misadventure.

Meanwhile, all our little lefty friends are wee-weeing about teabaggers and townhalls.

Morons. Disingenuous, dishonest morons. 

Comments

[David]

Excellent discussion on this topic to be found here:

http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/lindholm/

An excerpt: "No, Lindholm is not the stupidest man in the world. But we might be. If such feckless reasoning brings America down — falling who knows how far — then we will deserve to be called the Stupidest People in the World."

Sounds like Progressives to me!

[Eric Blair]

Well, I'm thinking that there was no way that, given the events of 9/11/01, that Afghanistan wasn't going to get invaded, no matter who was in office. (unless you're one of those people who think 9/11 would not have happened if Gore had been elected, and I don't think you are.)

Good, bad, indifferent, the Iraq war sucked al-queda's focus to iraq, where al-queda did get beat, and their focus has gone back to Afghanistan, where it hasn't been.

So, I think what we're seeing now in Afghanistan is what we would have seen a lot earlier had Bush not invaded Iraq.

The Iraqis still have to fix their own problems, going forward one way or another, (and I don't know how that will turn out, except to say that they have a better chance now than the Iraqis would have had under Saddam and his crazy sons.)

Afghanistan isn't going to calm down until a lot more al-queda/taliban get killed off.

[Eric Blair]

Oh yeah, Dennis: You got linked by memeorandum again!

[David]

"until a lot more al-queda/taliban get killed off"

Don't forget the American and Allied troops which will need to be expended* to do this. Oh, and the innocent Afghanis we'll undoubtedly kill too.

Waiting for the left's cries of outrage on Obama's War.

*by which I mean killed and horribly maimed

[markg8]

So you're all dirty fucking hippies how? LOL how hypocritical can you get? Don't answer that or Obama might propose upping the DoD budget even more than he already has just because he knows you'll oppose him.

[bishop]

He's not going to commit the troops necessary, to
fight this battle, so don't worry about thateventuality.
Afghanistan was always the tougher battle, which they
say they believed in.

[markg8]

I say we start drafting middle aged accountants. Somebody get me Charlie Rangel on the horn.

[Dennis the Peasant]

Mark-

My position on Afghanistan hasn't changed since mid-2005.

That's something you can't say. Neither can Obama.

[David]

I say chickenhawk Mark Garrity belongs on the front line.

[PeterUK]

David,the Taleban don't need any clapped out old men.

[markg8]

My position on Afghanistan hasn't changed since mid-2005. That's something you can't say. Neither can Obama.

Nonsense, I challenge you to find any post by me or quote from Obama that shows either of us has changed our position on Afghanistan.

[Guesst]

Rarely do we hear about the deaths that are occurring every week because President Obama is sending our troops into harm's way.

I can't figure out why.

[Eric Blair]

Guesst: It's because there isn't a Republikkkan in the Whitehouse.

[markg8]

It's because you don't read. Try it sometime.

[PeterUK]

Guesst.It is because these deaths are Democrat deaths,the poor souls are dying for Obama. Odd you never hear the Chickenhawk epithet flung at him.

[markg8]

David,the Taleban don't need any clapped out old men.

He wasn't talking about you.

[PeterUK]

Obviously.

[Masturbatin' Pete]

Regardless of whether you think it was a good idea to go into Iraq, it is possible to fashion a working government in Iraq the post-Saddam era. Enough of the population is westernized, educated, and interested in making money. They have a strong financial interest in not seeing the country descend into chaos.

The mistake in Afghanistan was attempting to create a quasi-secular democracy in a hellhole that wasn't prepared for it. By 2003 it was clear that there was no hope that Afghanistan would join the ranks of the civilized nations. We have no business there other than kicking al-Qaeda out, and no, the Taliban, as bad as they are, are not synonymous with al-Qaeda.

Al-Qaeda got their clock cleaned in Afghanistan and Iraq. If we get out of Afghanistan now, we'll leave it no worse than we found it. Iraq? Well, Iraq still needs work, but it's getting there, and it can be the least badly governed Muslim nation in the mideast.

Obama didn't want to be called a pussy, so he finessed his way around the war issue. Iraq was bad, but Afghanistan - the war that Bush had invested less in - that was the GOOD WAR. And OF COURSE we're going to fight that one! So that jug-eared doofus verbally commmitted himself to escalation in Afghanistan, even though it doesn't make a bit of sense to stay there. Thanks, Super Genius Barack!