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Bush is a full fledged member of the Country Club Republicans. How dare someone appeal to the plebes without RNC approval. LOL, they're probably pissing their pants as much as the Democratic Yapping Machine.

Let's see, whose on the Republican short list for 2012?
Mitt Romney
Ron Paultard
Whasshisname Huckabee (who released a murderer to go kill cops)
and evidently, Jeb is thinking about it.

Palin was a sacrificial lamb last election, and won't be invited back.

G*d save us, The Messiah might get re-elected after all.

And Mitt Romney just blew it by backing John McCain.

Romney has a track record of competence and of being able to deal with some sort of healthcare compromise. If America is legislatively gridlocked and in a general shambles in 2012 - why wouldn't he be the best man to run ?

Because Americans don't need "healthcare compromise". Americans need to be told to get off their fat asses and provide for their own healthcare.

It's "Lose-y-ana", Dennis. Their largest city is located on a hurricane-prone coast at or below sea level. You do the math...

Just talking about electability Randy - there is no prospect of someone telling Americans that and getting elected as well.

I think I have a better --OK less poor -- opinion of GWB than most folks round here, but this country has had enough of dynasties, whether Kennedies,Bushes, Bidens, Bayhs,Gores or Bagginses.

Huckabee (the GOP's answer to Mike Delahunt),Romney, Newt, even Giuliani... all live in the country of old men. Their time and their shelf life has passed.

This next election is going to be a referendum not just on party but incumbency itself. The GOP nominee will be somebody no one sees coming yet.

I wouldn't count on it. The GOP didn't earn the moniker "The Stupid Party" for nothing, you know. It's not just an epithet tossed around by the their mouth breathing short bus window licking helmet wearing sippy cup using political opponents. There's some truth there.

But it sure would be nice to have some young blood in the game.

Jeb better be careful or Sarah will block him from her facebook account !

Romney's another RINO a la Bush, McCain, Schwartzenugee, Voinovich, etc., etc., etc.

We need 4 to 8 years of that shit like a hole in the head.

Sure, you need a real small government guy.

Pardon my ignorance - but who was the last major politician of either party who wasn't a big spender ? Barry Goldwater ?

I'd argue Reagan wasn't, under the circumstances.

In any event, the bozos we have in the Republican Party now aren't even pretending...

So, uh, aside from ragging on Bush or the TPM folks who are using him as a handy bludgeon from their anti-Palin toolbox, do you ... dispute what Bush said? Seems pretty spot on, to me.

List 10 things Palin has said that are indisputably dumber then The Messiah's dumbest quotes. Wasn't she able to list all 57 states?

@just passin: I'm not a fan of Obama, and yes, he's said some dumb things. But while I don't think he's nearly as smart as conventional wisdom grants him ... he's probably **loads** smarter - or at least more informed - than Palin.

1. She couldn't name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with besides Roe v Wade ... b/c she didn't know any.

2. She couldn't give a reasonable answer when asked to name her favorite publications; even when clearly trying to avoid endorsing any politically sensitive pubs, she didn't have the mental quickness to answer the question.

3. She uses PC to attack Rahm Emanuel when he uses the word retard, forgives Limbaugh for it b/c it's comedy ... and then goes after Family Guy for using it in (admittedly poor) comedy. All within, like, a week.

4. Death panels.

5. Beyond the fact that her questioner didn't know it much better than she did, she didn't know what *any* versions of the "Bush Doctrine" were.

6. She claimed Alaska provides 1/5th of domestic US energy.

7. Palin bagging on "fruit fly research in France" is one of my personal favorites. Since fruit flies are one of the basic animal research models (they reproduce and die rapidly enough to see generational experimental results quickly), she took demagoguing science and manipulating populist ignorance to new heights.

8. If Obama declared war on Iran ...

9. She needed to write on her hand to remember - not specifics - rather 4 broad, silly talking points choreographed by her handlers. Really sharp mind, there. And nevermind the fact that she set herself up for another round of jokes by late night comedians.

I could go on if I head over to google, but then, I'd also have to do that to find Obama quotes. The woman is, at the very least, not very well educated relative to our better class of politicians, and probably not all that intellectually curious. She should not held up on a pedestal b/c the NYT hates her and a bunch of leftist dicks go after her with ridiculous and often unfair vigor.

Flit,

"The woman is, at the very least, not very well educated relative to our better class of politicians, and probably not all that intellectually curious"

We don't have a better class of politicians; I consider 90% of them (at least) to be corrupt trash that play at partisan bickering to pander to pinkos and/or extremist Christians. As far as intellectualism, screw it. I don't want some egghead politician thinking up new and improved ways of screwing the taxpayers. A politician should stick to simple solutions that work under the Constitution, and when there aren't any problems, should not furrow their brow to think of any "new" ones that need "solving".

Her "stupidity" is as overplayed as is The Messiah's genius. As far as putting her on a pedestal, I don't think she's virginal politically, but if both the pinkos and the RINOs are so filled with hate for her, then she has to be doing something right.

Finally, education as a qualification in of itself is not a concept that I hold in any respect. The Obamessiah has an excellent educational record (as far as what was actually released publicly), and he is nothing more then an empty suit with a pompous smirk and a loser's plan. Palin went to a "second-rate" school, and didn't try to fuck Alaska completely up.

To your points
1. I can't name many SC cases I disagree with. Am I yokel for not going to law school?
2. I don't read many current publications; in fact, I tend to use the web for information, especially as I can cross-reference original sources and not deal with lies from the NYT and Time.
3. Politics, not stupidity. Also, the Family Guy was a shot at her kid.
4. Cutting Medicare to fund healthcare, perhaps? The Obamessiah left himself open to that one.
5. Point taken, but that was pretty early in the campaign. The only reason that I knew the term was that I am a neocon of sorts.
6. I don't exactly what she said, but Alaska does produce 18% of US crude.
7. Your point, I didn't pay attention to this one.
8. Iran is already at war with us. Our military has known since 2006 that Iran has been involved with funding and organizing Shi'a terrorists in Iraq.
9. Not different from notecards, IMHO. Besides, our late night comedians are a joke in of themselves. This is not a personal attack, but have you done any public speaking? Small notes can help.

Nothing as stupid and uninformed as:

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."


"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today - our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

There are more, if you'd like.

"We don't have a better class of politicians; I consider 90% of them (at least) to be corrupt trash that play at partisan bickering to pander to pinkos and/or extremist Christians."

Overly cynical, IMO. Politicians are simply people, if particularly narcissistic ones, and there are certain ones that are better than others.

'As far as putting her on a pedestal, I don't think she's virginal politically, but if both the pinkos and the RINOs are so filled with hate for her, then she has to be doing something right."

Not necessarily.

"Finally, education as a qualification in of itself is not a concept that I hold in any respect"

Education doesn't have to be formal. For example, I've never set foot in a medical school classroom, or (advanced) physics lab but I can bend your ear about the human endocrine system and particle/wave duality. Palin is not educated, nor "informed," if you prefer. Point by point:

1. If you aspire to the second highest office in the land, and are a heartbeat away from appointing SCOTUS justices, you'd better learn some. Fast.

2. But you still read some, and in any case, you just answered that question with enough clarity and intelligence to beat Katie Couric's gotcha.

3. Dumb "politics;" especially as she's a "conservative" who shouldn't be assigning politically correct litmus tests to speech.

4. Death panels remains ridiculous overstatement. I mean, we already have "death panels" that determine who is eligible for certain organ donations or medical trials, for example.

5. As with 2, she could have handled it better.

6. Alaskan oil energy is at ~14%, according to fact check, and was 3.5(?)% of total energy. I'll actually refrain from holding this one too far against her, but it's an unforced error.

7. NA

8. I'm particularly aware of Iran's proxy war, as I've spent some time in Baghdad when EFP IEDs were the threat of the day. But proxy war remains different than direct war, and a shooting war with Iran remains remarkably unfeasible from both political and logistical standpoints.

9. I'll grant you that bullets are helpful, but I write mine on notecards. Writing on your hand is the popular province of stoners and 12 year olds, not national politicians who need to build their credibility under heavy scrutin. As for the late night comedians: may not be to everyone's tastes, but do not doubt their influence. I maintain that Tina Fey's evisceration of Palin was the most politically damaging thing to the McCain campaign, whether that reality about how America picks their presidents is uncomfortable or not.

I would argue that Obama is vastly overrated, but I still maintain that she is not as bright or at least well-read as the Obamessiah. She ignites my personal elitist intellectual snob instincts, and my phony detector concurrently. And I gave W. a pass and generally liked him on a lot of important things (sticking w/Iraq), despite his malapropisms and amiable dunce routine. You and I differ, to each their own, I suppose.

But one thing is clear, and it's something the right needs to recognize: a majority of folks outside of the bubble of political involvement break toward buying the CW that she's a joke. barring extreme circumstances, if she sucks up a lot of media oxygen by running in 2012, it will be disastrous for the GOP. (and by extension, any vestiges of conservatism they can bring to the table).

Regards.

Thanks Flit,

"whether that reality about how America picks their presidents is uncomfortable or not." & "a majority of folks outside of the bubble of political involvement break toward buying the CW that she's a joke"

You score on both points; OTOH, had the Republican establishment gone to bat for her, instead of sandbagging her, a lot of that CW might not be so bad. She's not a genius, but she has accomplishments Obama couldn't match with a whole community organized behind him. Lord, the McCain campaign was as bad as the Bush I reelection, and the Dole, campaigns. Palin's best bet (assuming she's still working towards GOP goals) woul;d be to work the religious base. I probably won't vote Republican unless they bring in a relative outsider with proven fiscal sense. Again, I might even vote for Palin if she was the candidate in the GE.

I think I'm done with the GOP for the most part; they had the world in their hands from 2000 to 2006, and they wasted this time by acting like Democrats. Had the R's used some political capitol to expand the military (at a time when we were in the middle of two wars), Iran would be a different logistical question now, possibly even a different political one. The R's chose not to do that... "Let's go shoppping".

I'm curious, who's on your short list for the GOP nod?

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