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I am glad you are documenting this, and you are doing a fantastic job.

Watching this unfold reminds me a little of science. Either you have the data, or you do not have the data. Either something works, or it does not.

No matter how hard you wish, pray or stomp your feet, the chemical symbol for water is still h2o - and if companies are forced to file 8-k's, well...

I am praying that these hearings are on CSPAN, I will have to go out and buy a tivo just for this to watch Waxman try to grill these ceo's who need do nothing but say - hey, we didn't pass the law, we are just following it.

I think your prediction from several posts before will be proven correct - much of Obamacare will be stillborn, pushed into the future and/or canned. When the shit hits the fan, the numbers will speak.

I wouldn't show up. Make the poor loon from Beverly Hills (the poor part, yes) subpoena my ass, that would be even more fun.

If Medicare Part D required a tax subsidy to be offered "cost-effectively," then it was never cost-effective.

Nor sustainable over time, but I know you already knew that. Good find, Dennis.

Troll. Comment removed.

What I'm wondering is what publicly traded companies with a big union presence will do. I must admit this is the first time I've ever looked forward to reading an 8-k to provide me with gales of laughter.

You just have to assume that any large company with a significant health care plan will be taking a hit to earnings.

*knock-knock*

Troll delivery for Mister Peasant, oven-ready for roasting.

Popcorn's on, folks...

Like markg8 and elliotg before him, anon seems to have lost his ability to even ACT polite when things start falling down around him.

Sheesh, Anon - worst troll ever. You lose the internets for today.

Does it hurt to be that stupid ? Seems like it would.

But you've gotta admit, noted fuckwit Mark Garrity -- aka Markg8 -- had a certain bone-stupid intransigence to him. Anon seems too anodyne.

Dang. I missed the troll. The perils of working, I suppose. Could we have a bowdlerized version, maybe, just so we'd have the gist of the thing?

CQ - just a bunch of swearing and incoherent b.s. You didn't miss anything.

Oh yes, Waxman can invite Prudential to his powwow now, who just came out with an 8-k. $100m.

"Item 8.01 Other Events.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, signed into law on March 23, 2010, and The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, expected to be signed into law on March 30, 2010 (together, the “Act”), will reduce the tax deduction available to Prudential Financial, Inc. (the “Company”) for retiree health care costs beginning in 2013. The federal government currently provides a subsidy, on a tax-free basis, to companies, including the Company and its subsidiaries, that provide certain retiree prescription drug benefits (the “Medicare Part D subsidy”). The Act would reduce the tax deductibility of retiree health care costs to the extent of any Medicare Part D subsidy received beginning in 2013.

In order to reflect the anticipated increase in taxes due to the change in law, the Company has incurred a charge for the impairment of deferred tax assets in an amount of approximately $100 million for the quarter ending March 31, 2010. The impairment reduces net income, as determined under generally accepted accounting principles, but is excluded from adjusted operating income of the Company’s Financial Services Businesses."

Actually, I'm fairly sure "anon" is my old "elliotg" troll. Same town, same tone.

They just can't keep away, Dennis! Like moths to the flame! (or a drunk to a bar).

<< what publicly traded companies with a big union presence will do >>

You mean what the companies like Caterpillar, 3M, ATT, Verizon will do, or what their unions will do?


Like markg8 and elliotg before him, anon seems to have lost his ability to even ACT polite when things start falling down around him.

That's a symptom of cognitive dissonance reverberating within one's skull until the brain is crushed into a gray paste.

>>On March 23, 2030, President Barack Obama signs Obamacare into law.

Please tell me he won't still be president in 2030?!?!

2010, 2030, what's the difference?

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